ZSA In House Presents Table Talk

An hour of interesting and insightful conversation with thought leaders on legal issues, challenges and other matters of interest, hosted by Ken Fredeen, Managing Partner, ZSA In House.


Episode 3 | Zabeen Hirji, Senior Consultant, Deloitte

March 30 at 1pm EDT
Join us on March 30 for our next episode of TABLE TALK as Ken Fredeen hosts Zabeen Hirji, former Senior Vice President of HR at RBC and now a senior consultant at Deloitte.

Episode 4 | Thomas Kim, Chief Legal Officer & Company Secretary of Thomson Reuters

Thomas Kim joins us to discuss his unique 20+ year leadership journey at Thomson Reuters and, in particular, explores his role in developing corporate strategy, navigating the COVID world as a senior member of the executive team, and advising a CEO new to the role.

We hear his observations on General Counsel leadership in a company whose stated purpose is “to serve our customers, pursuing justice, truth, and transparency.” From Texas to Toronto, via multiple stops around the world, Thomas’ personal leadership story culminating in his current role provides interesting insights into how lawyers become leaders within organizations, including by taking non-legal roles and their leadership strategies and observations, in particular for racialized lawyers looking to carve out their own leadership roles.

Episode 3 | Zabeen Hirji Executive Advisor to Deloitte and Former CHRO RBCading

Hitting the wall is not a pleasant experience. Our recent Table Talk guest, Zabeen Hirji, explored the topic of Executive burnout, resilience and the implications for General Counsel and their leadership in the ‘New World of Work’.


As a respected Human Resources leader, having spent 40 years at RBC, Zabeen’s insights are both helpful and important for General Counsel to consider, with implications not only for themselves, but for others as well. There was plenty to unpack from a wonderful hour-long discussion.We recommend that you have a listen, but here are the highlights.

Episode 2 | Beth Wilson,Former Canada CEO, Dentons

In our latest Table Talk, Ken Fredeen welcomed Beth Wilson FCPA, FCA, ICD.D who recently stepped out of her CEO role at Dentons Canada.


In their hour-long conversation, Beth provided her insights on leadership, leadership development, career insights, professional service firm governance, and interesting comparisons between the professions of accounting and law. Having held increasing leadership roles within one of the Big 4 accounting firms and then serving as CEO of one of Canada’s largest law firms, Beth provided many interesting perspectives and insights.

Episode 1 | Simon Fish, General Counsel Emeritus, BMO

For our inaugural episode of the ZSA In House Table Talk series, Ken Fredeen was joined by recently retired General Counsel of BMO Financial Group, Simon Fish.


Since retiring, Simon has gone on to other exciting things, including being named as Chair of the BMO Climate institute. Ken follows up his engaging talk with Simon with a few of his learnings from the extraordinary human being and former General Counsel; in particular as they relate to leadership development and the role General Counsel and their teams play within an organization and beyond.


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